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from the successes of former demonstration programs." I ask you "Where is this careful evaluation? Where is this documentation?" Recently, I received a letter from the military coalition expressing their grave concern that the Defense Department was going to replace CRI with an unproven and untested new health care system. I forwarded this letter to the Deputy Secretary of Defense with a cover letter expressing this Committee's strong support for the CRI program. I would like to include these letters at this time.

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ALEXANDER ARKANSAS

P. MURTHA, PENNSYLVANIA

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44PH 3. EARLY, MASSACHUSETTS WARLES WILSON, TEXAS

MAN G. DICKS, WASHINGTON

ATTHEW F. MACHRIGH, NEW YORK
LUAM LEMMAR FLORIDA

ARTEN OLAY SABO, MINNESOTA

UAN C. DEXON CALIFORNIA

: FADIO, CALIFORNIA

GILL HEFNER, NORTH CAROLINA

SANCON OREGON

ARD JOWYER NEW JERSEY

EN HOVER MARYLAND

10 CARR, MICHIGAN

BERT JMRAZER NEW YORK

CHARD J. DURBIN ILLINOIS

WALD & COLEMAN TEXAS

AN OLLOHAN WEST VIRGINIA

DSAY THOMAS, GEORGIA

ESTER & ATKINS, MASSACHUSETTS
CHAPMAN TEXAS

ARCY CAPTUR, ONIO

JWRENCE J. SMITH, FLORIDA

UNDE SKAGGS, COLORADO

VID & PRICE, NORTH CAROLINA

ICY PELOSI, CALIFORNIA

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Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Committee on Appropriations
Washington, DC 20515-6015

January 14, 1992

MINORITY MEMBERS

JOSEPH M. MCDADE, PENNSYLVANIA

JOHN T. MYERS. INOLANA

CLARENCE & MILLER OHIO

LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, PENNSYLVANIA
CW. BILL YOUNG, FLORIDA
BALPH REGULA, OHIO

CARLO PURSELL, MICHIGAN
MICKEY BOWARDS. OKLAHOMA
BOS LIVINGSTON, LOUISIANA
BILL GREEN, NEW YORK
JERRY LEWIS, CALIFOPERA
JOHN EDWARD PORTER, ILLINOIS
HAROLD ROGERS, KENTUCKY
JOR SKEEN, NEW MEXICO
FRANK & WOLF, VIRGINIA
BILL LOWERY, CALIFORNIA
VIN WEBER MINNESOTA
TOM DELAY, TEXAS

JIM KOLBE, ARIZONA

DEAN A GALLO, NEW JERSEY

BARBARA F. VUCANOVICH, NEVADA

JIM LIGHTFOOT, KOWA

CLEAK AND STAFF DIRECTOR
FREDERICK G. MOHRMAN

TELEPHONE
(202) 225-2771

Honorable Donald J. Atwood, Jr.
Deputy Secretary of Defense
Washington, D.C. 20301

Dear Mr. Secretary:

As a follow-on, to our telephone conversation last week on
the CHAMPUS Reform Initiative (CRI), I wanted to share the
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attached letter from The Military Coalition with you.
letter clearly shows that there is strong support for the CRI
program.

The Committee and I continue to believe it is necessary to
combat rising CHAMPUS costs while providing the best health care
to our service members and their families. According to The
Military Coalition, with its broad representation of service
members, active and retired, officers and enlisted, the CRI
program is helping the people who need and use DOD health

services.

The Committee remains supportive of the CRI program and it is gratifying to know that so many associations who represent service members and their families agree with our position on

CRI.

It would be appreciated if you would keep the Committee apprised of any actions proposed by the Department on the CRI program.

Sincerely,

:./5)

John P. Murtha
Chairman

Subcommittee on Defense

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The Military Coalition previously expressed strong support for continuing the CHAMPUS Reform Initiative (CRI) as currently structured in California and Hawaii. Because of considerable media hype about the fate of the CRI program in those states our members are concerned that the proven, highly popular CRI program will be changed or replaced by an inferior system. The Coalition reiterates its support for continuing CRI with the current benefits structure, particularly the incentives in CHAMPUS Prime and Extra, until at least February 1994.

We would be hard pressed to defend a change of benefits to our members in California and Hawaii who have voiced a better than 90% satisfaction rate with the current plan and respectfully request your concurrence in continuing this vital program with the current incentives intact.

Respectfully,

Paved. Ascasi

Paul W. Arcari
Colonel, USAF (Ret)
Co-Chairman

Coalition signatures enclosed

C.A. "Mack" McKinney
Sgt. Major, USMC (Ret)
Co-Chairman

Angula V M. Namara

Air Force Association

Save H. Arcani

Sydney T. Hickey)

National Military Famil Association

th. John M. Jolame

The Retired officers Association

Stater Huk

Navy League of the U.S.

LauveveR Galramy

Marine Corps Reserve Officers
Association

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Fleet Reserve Association

Don Hear

U.S. Army Warrant Officers
Association

Herb Ronablest

Jewish War Veterans of the
USA,

Bonald L. Marti

Marine Corps League

William I Lucca

Commissioned Officer's Association

The Retired Enlisted Association

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Non-Commissioned officers

Aspire Cartidge

National Association for Uniformed

Mr. MURTHA. This letter prompted me to call for this important hearing.

Again, I welcome each of you here today. We are interested in hearing from you on assessment of military health care, the Coordinated Care program, the CHAMPUS Reform Initiative, and the recently released Coordinated Care support program request for proposals. We will begin with Mrs. Dorsey Chescavage, Assistant Director of Government Relations for the National Military Family Association. Mrs. Chescavage.

STATEMENT OF MRS. CHESCAVAGE

Mrs. CHESCAVAGE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. NMFA represents military families, active duty, retired, survivors, Reserve and Guard. We represent those people who sit around the kitchen table talking about their dreams, careers, their children, their health and their budget.

Right now in California and Hawaii, military families are sitting around their kitchen tables in shock. They are being told that CRI will end. Those families in CHAMPUS PRIME will probably have to give up their doctor, they could be forced into PRIMUS or NAVCARE clinics which they know very well are-walk-in Doc in the Box-clinics known primarily for their long waits, medical care by the number.

They are being told that even if they are allowed to stay in a civilian network, no more $5.00 a visit. They will then have to pay the actuarial equivalent of standard CHAMPUS. I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, most of those families at the kitchen table know instinctively and immediately that they cannot afford the actuarial equivalent of standard CHAMPUS.

Those 300,000-plus families who have been able to form relationships with their doctors in CHAMPUS Extra are finding out the entire program will be abolished, gone, wiped out.

Around the kitchen table, the main question is why? Why are they doing this to us. Did Congress make them do it? Is it costing the government too much money? I know of no other group of beneficiaries in the world who would worry more about the Defense budget than worry about themselves, but I can promise you this is a question military families are asking. When we tell them no, Congress is not making them do this, and no, this is not costing the government too much money, as a matter of fact, it has saved the government money, they are stunned, they feel betrayed. They feel betrayed by their own, and I can tell you, Mr. Chairman, that really hurts.

I had a call from a Marine wife who told me that before CHAMPUS PRIME, she would go to Balboa Naval Hospital when she was sick. She would have to be in line at Balboa at 5:30 in the morning because the clinic opened at 7:00 a.m.. This line was not to see a doctor. This line was for getting an appointment. If all the appointments for the day were gone by the time she got to the front of the line, she would have had to come back the next day.

I remind you that she was sick or she wouldn't have been there. She is now enrolled in CHAMPUS PRIME. Her doctor is five minutes from her house. She knows she can always have enough

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