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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS
FOR 1992

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SECOND CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

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DONALD E. RICHBOURG, J. David WILLSON, JOHN G. PLASHAL, ROBERt V. Davis, Sandra A. GIL-
BERT, DAVID F. KILIAN, ELIZABETH A. PHILLIPS, DELACROIX Davis III, ALICIA JONES, JULIE PAC-
QUING, TIMOTHY L. PETERSON, GREGORY J. WALTERS, and DAVID W. ROBERTS, Staff Assistants;
MARCIA L. MATTS, and CINDY E. WAGNER, Administrative Aides

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Drug Interdiction and Counter-Drug Activities, Defense
Testimony of Members of Congress and Other Interested
Individuals and Organizations

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS

FOR 1992

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SECOND CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

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DONALD E. RICHBOURG, J. DAVID WILLSON, JOHN G. PLASHAL, ROBERT V. Davis, Sandra A. GIL-
BERT, DAVID F. KILIAN, ELIZABETH A. PHILLIPS, Delacroix Davis III, Alicia JONES, JULIE PAC-
QUING, TIMOTHY L. PETERSON, GREGORY J. WALTERS, and David W. ROBERTS, Staff Assistants;
MARCIA L. MATTS, and CINDY E. WAGNER, Administrative Aides

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U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1991

For sale by the U.S. Government Printing Office

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman

WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky,

Vice Chairman

NEAL SMITH, Iowa

SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin

EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
TOM BEVILL, Alabama
BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas
JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
BOB TRAXLER, Michigan
JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts
CHARLES WILSON, Texas
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MATTHEW F. MCHUGH, New York
WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida
MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California
VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina
LES AUCOIN, Oregon

WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York

RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois

RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas

ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia

LINDSAY THOMAS, Georgia

CHESTER G. ATKINS, Massachusetts

JIM CHAPMAN, Texas

MARCY KAPTUR, Ohio

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana
CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio
LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania
C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan
MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma
BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana
BILL GREEN, New York
JERRY LEWIS, California
JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky
JOE SKEEN, New Mexico
FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia
BILL LOWERY, California
VIN WEBER, Minnesota
TOM DELAY, Texas

JIM KOLBE, Arizona

DEAN A. GALLO, New Jersey BARBARA F. VUCANOVICH, Nevada JIM LIGHTFOOT, Iowa

LAWRENCE J. SMITH, Florida

DAVID E. SKAGGS, Colorado

DAVID E. PRICE, North Carolina

NANCY PELOSI, California

FREDERICK G. MOHRMAN, Clerk and Staff Director

NOTE.-The Honorable Silvio O. Conte was Ranking Minority Member of the Committee until his death on February 8, 1991.

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS

FOR 1992

THURSDAY, APRIL 25, 1991.

ARMY'S FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

WITNESS

HONORABLE G. KIM WINCUP, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY FOR MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS

INTRODUCTION

Mr. MURTHA. The committee will please come to order.

This morning we will be discussing the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP) of the United States Army. The six-year plan of the Army proposes to reduce the end strength of the United States Army by almost 400,000 by the end of fiscal year 1997.

End strength reductions proposed for fiscal year 1992 are 124,400, the majority, or 66.2 percent, of which are in the reserve components. Coming off the successful completion of Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm and with the changing world situation, the Committee wants to be sure that making such a drastic reduction in one fiscal year is the right way to proceed.

Our witness this morning is the Honorable G. Kim Wincup, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve Affairs. Welcome, Mr. Secretary, to the committee. We appreciate your vast experience in this position and the country is better because of the work you did on the House Armed Services Committee over the years.

All of us received a lot of criticism for putting all that money in there for those weapon systems but they sure worked well. I know we will be able to work something out on these problems that have been presented to us by higher authorities.

You and I talked earlier about the end strength and force structure reductions proposed for 1992. The end-strength reduction of 124,400, of which 66 percent are proposed for the Army Reserve Components. With them coming off the successful operation in the Persian Gulf, this large reduction in just one fiscal year could be detrimental to the force.

I think half the forces deployed in the Gulf were Reserve and Guard; 240,000 were called up?

Mr. WINCUP. Not that many deployed, but about 220,000 were called up all together.

Mr. MURTHA. We will put your full statement in the record and get right to questions, if you will summarize it for us.

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